Wednesday, December 1, 2004
HALL OF FAME BALLOT –
RETURNING PLAYERS
The Hall of Fame Ballots have been sent out again to the Baseball Writers of America. If you recall, last year, I spent one day talking about the new players on the ballot, and one day discussing those returning to the ballot. If you know any of your local members of the Baseball Writers of America, e-mail them, or write them and let them know who they should vote for. They may or may not agree with you, or me, but feel free to send them this link. Can't hurt right?! I know I did this last year and got some good comments. Some agreed with me on Bert Blyleven and some just said there was no way they would ever consider the thoughts of "outsiders." It was really quite interesting.
Today, I am going to discuss those players returning to the ballot from last year's vote, and tomorrow I will discuss the players who are making their first appearance on the ballot. For those returning, I will use the same information that I did a year ago. (The only players that are different are Fernando Valenzuela and Keith Hernandez, who did not get the required 5% of the vote to stay on the ballot. Also, Paul Molitor and Dennis Eckersley were first-year ballot guys a year ago who got in. No other first-year guys got even 5% of the vote.) My opinion is, of course, that those players have done absolutely nothing over the past twelve months to improve their Hall of Fame credentials. However, I do reserve the right to change my mind, and I have done that for one player who last year I did not think was a Hall of Famer, and now I do.
So, let's get to it. Again, I would love to hear your comments on my thoughts, so please e-mail me.
Bert Blyleven - Minnesota Twins, Texas Rangers, Pittsburgh Pirates, Cleveland Indians, California Angels
Seasons
G
GS
IP
W
L
S
ERA
H
R
ER
BB
SO
ERA+
22
692
685
4970
287
250
0
3.31
4632
2029
1830
1322
3701
118
How is it possible that the 52 year old Bert Blyleven is not a Hall of Famer? Two World Series Championships (’79 with the Pirates, ’87 with the Twins). 9th on the All-Time Shutout list with 60. When Bert Blyleven retired, he was 3rd on the All-Time strikeout list with 3,701 strikeouts. He is still 5th place on that list:
1.) Nolan Ryan 5,714
2.) Roger Clemens 4,317
3.) Randy Johnson 4,161
4.) Steve Carlton 4,136
5.) Bert Blyleven 3,701
6.) Tom Seaver 3,640
7.) Don Sutton 3,574
8.) Gaylord Perry 3,534
9.) Walter Johnson 3,509
10.) Phil Niekro 3,342
11.) Fergie Jenkins 3,192
12.) Bob Gibson 3,117
I think we all know that Roger Clemens and Randy Johnson will be first-ballot Hall of Famers. So, no pitcher with more than 3,000 career strikeouts is NOT in the Hall of Fame… except one, Bert Blyleven. Why does that make sense? Why don’t voters vote for him? If he had not played those couple of years for bad Cleveland teams and somehow won 12 more ball games, there would be absolutely no question that Bert Blyleven would have been a first-ballot Hall of Famer. Let’s take a quick look at the 10 players that Baseball Reference says are most similar to Bert Blyleven:
1.) Don Sutton
2.) Gaylord Perry
3.) Fergie Jenkins
4.) Tommy John
5.) Robin Roberts
6.) Tom Seaver
7.) Jim Kaat
8.) Early Wynn
9.) Phil Niekro
10.) Steve Carlton
From that list, all but Tommy John and Jim Kaat have already been inducted into baseball’s Hall of Fame. So as I’ve asked before, someone please explain to me how Bert Blyleven is not a Hall of Fame pitcher. If you know, please, e-mail me.
Please remember to check out both Bert Blyleven's website and the wonderful Blyleven for Hall of Fame article by Rich Lederer from a year ago!
Dave Concepcion - Cincinnati Reds
Seasons
G
AB
R
H
2B
3B
HR
RBI
BB
SO
AVG
OBP
SLG
SB
OPS+
19
2488
8723
993
2326
389
48
101
950
736
1186
0.267
0.322
0.357
321
88
A member of four World Series teams with the vaunted Big Red Machine. The team won championships in 1975 and 1976. Johnny Bench, Joe Morgan and Tony Perez have already been inducted from those teams, so I’m sure that’s why he’s still on the ballot. A very solid shortstop for a lot of years, Concepcion was a nine-time All-Star. He was an above average shortstop earning five Gold Glove Awards. A solid performer for some very good teams, but the Hall is for the best of the best!
Andre Dawson - Montreal Expos, Chicago Cubs, Boston Red Sox, Florida Marlins
Seasons
G
AB
R
H
2B
3B
HR
RBI
BB
SO
AVG
OBP
SLG
SB
OPS+
21
2627
9927
1373
2774
503
98
438
1591
589
1509
0.279
0.323
0.482
314
119
Hawk had a pretty solid career and you have to wonder what it could have been with two healthy knees! Dawson won eight Gold Glove Awards and was a All-Star eight times as well. He won the 1987 NL MVP despite his Chicago Cubs finishing in last place. Two other times he finished second in MVP voting. His 438 homers rank 29th all-time and his 1,591 RBI ranks him 28th. Was Andre Dawson a great player? Yes! Was he a Hall of Famer? I don’t think so, but he’s close enough that he will remain on the ballot for the duration.
Steve Garvey - Los Angeles, San Diego Padres
Seasons
G
AB
R
H
2B
3B
HR
RBI
BB
SO
AVG
OBP
SLG
SB
OPS+
19
2332
8835
1143
2599
440
43
272
1308
479
1003
0.294
0.329
0.446
83
116
Steve Garvey actually put up some very good career numbers. He was a 10 time All-Star. He was 0-3 in his World Series appearances with the Dodgers in the 1970s, but then the team won the 1981 World Series. He then went to San Diego where his team lost in the 1984 World Series. As solid a hitter as Garvey was, he was probably a better defensive player. He won just four Gold Glove Awards, but he held a career .996 Fielding percentage. His 9.04 Range Factor was well above the 7.96 league average. Another good thing about Garvey, he played almost every day and still holds the National League record for consecutive games played!
Rich Gossage – Chicago White Sox, Pittsburgh Pirates, New York Yankees, San Diego Padres, Chicago Cubs, San Francisco Giants, Texas Rangers, Oakland A’s, Seattle Mariners
Seasons
G
GS
IP
W
L
S
ERA
H
R
ER
BB
SO
ERA+
22
1002
37
1809.3
124
107
310
3.01
1497
670
605
732
1502
126
Goose Gossage was intimidating, mustache and all! Along with Rollie Fingers and Bruce Sutter, Gossage needs to be judged different than most other pitchers. They were closers before the current closer role was defined. They would pitch 2-3 innings frequently throughout the year. They would come into tie games or when the team was ahead or behind. And, of the three, I think that Gossage was the best. Fingers is already in the Hall, and Sutter is approaching receiving the necessary votes. He was a 9 time All-Star. His 310 saves are 13th on the all-time list, and Fingers is the only pitcher from his era above him. He even won a World Series ring with the Yankees in 1978. He appeared in the 1981 World Series with the Yankees and the ’84 Series with the Padres, but his teams lost in both cases.
Tommy John – Cleveland Indians, Chicago White Sox, Los Angeles, New York Yankees, California Angels, Oakland A’s
Seasons
G
GS
IP
W
L
S
ERA
H
R
ER
BB
SO
ERA+
26
760
700
4710.3
288
231
4
3.34
4783
2017
1749
1259
2245
111
Tommy John is another interesting case for the Hall of Fame. He has some pretty impressive numbers, but a lot of them were accumulated because he pitched for so long. Of course, he is best known as having an arm surgery named after him. But he came back from that and continued to pitch well for almost 15 more seasons. John was named to four All-Star teams. Two times he finished second in the Cy Young Award vote. His teams lost the three World Series that John was part of (’77 and ‘78 Dodgers, ’81 Yankees). Again, just 12 more wins would probably ensure him a spot in Cooperstown, but his 288 wins still ranks 24th all-time.
Don Mattingly - New York Yankees
Seasons
G
AB
R
H
2B
3B
HR
RBI
BB
SO
AVG
OBP
SLG
SB
OPS+
14
1785
7003
1007
2153
442
20
222
1099
588
444
0.307
0.358
0.471
14
127
There was quite a bit of discussion on this site after Don Mattingly was named the Yankees new hitting coach a month ago. A six time All-Star. Nine Gold Glove Awards. Donnie Baseball was the 1985 AL MVP, just beating out George Brett. In 1986, he finished second behind Roger Clemens in the MVP voting. Injuries definitely hurt his career the last five or six years, but he refused to miss much playing time because of it. He was the heart and soul of some bad ‘80s Yankees teams.
Jack Morris - Detroit Tigers, Minnesota Twins, Toronto Blue Jays, Cleveland Indians
Seasons
G
GS
IP
W
L
S
ERA
H
R
ER
BB
SO
ERA+
18
549
527
3824
254
186
0
3.90
3567
1815
1657
1390
2478
105
Twins fans want Jack Morris in the Hall of Fame simply for Game 7 of the 1991 World Series. After Josh Beckett’s Game 6 win against the Yankees in dominant fashion, many said that it was the greatest pitching performance in a World Series. Those people are either dumb, or they didn’t see Jack Morris’ 10-inning shutout against the Braves. However, a Hall of Fame plaque is earned for a career, not individual games, no matter how big. Jack Morris was the "winningest" pitcher in the big leagues for the decade of the ‘80s! (Note – he was also the "losingest" pitcher of that decade) A bulldog, Morris wanted to pitch a lot of innings. He pitched in five All-Star games. His 3.90 ERA is quite high for the Hall of Fame, and that 105 ERA+ is just slightly above average. But Morris shined on the big stage. He played on 3 World Series championship teams. First with the Tigers in 1984, then the aforementioned Twins 1991 team and again the following year with the Toronto Blue Jays.
Dale Murphy - Atlanta Braves, Philadelphia Phillies, Colorado Rockies
Seasons
G
AB
R
H
2B
3B
HR
RBI
BB
SO
AVG
OBP
SLG
SB
OPS+
18
2180
7960
1197
2111
350
39
398
1266
986
1748
0.265
0.346
0.469
161
121
Dale Murphy always gets talked of as a Hall of Famer. I can’t say I understand that, but he was a very good player for most of a decade with the Braves. He won the 1982 and 1983 NL MVP awards, hitting 36 home runs both years. He actually led the league in home runs the next two years with 36 and 37 homers, respectively. He was a seven time All-Star and a five time Gold Glove winning outfielder, very impressive considering he came up to the Braves a catcher. He had his great years and then his career plummeted and in a hurry. But the career numbers are very good. Maybe if he, instead of Claudell Washington was my favorite player at that time, I would be more biased toward the Murphy vote.
Dave Parker – Pittsburgh Pirates, Cincinnati Reds, Oakland A’s, Milwaukee Brewers, California Angels, Toronto Blue Jays
Seasons
G
AB
R
H
2B
3B
HR
RBI
BB
SO
AVG
OBP
SLG
SB
OPS+
19
2466
9358
1272
2712
526
75
339
1493
683
1537
0.290
0.339
0.471
154
121
Like Keith Hernandez, drug problems may have cost Parker some time, or at least a break from the media. But Dave Parker was a great all-around hitter. He played on seven All-Star teams. He won three Gold Gloves. He won the 1978 NL MVP Award and finished in the Top 5 in voting five times! He appeared in three World Series. His Sister Sledge “We Are Family” Pirates won the 1979 Series. Then he played on the 1988 and 1989 Oakland A’s teams that lost and then won the World Series.
Jim Rice - Boston Red Sox
Seasons
G
AB
R
H
2B
3B
HR
RBI
BB
SO
AVG
OBP
SLG
SB
OPS+
16
2089
8225
1249
2452
373
79
382
1451
670
1423
0.298
0.352
0.502
58
128
Jim Rice always gets plenty of support from the New England media when he isn’t selected for the Hall of Fame. I agree that he was a great player as well. Good power, good average. Rice played on eight All-Star teams. He won the 1978 AL MVP and finished in the Top 5 in voting six times. He was part of the ’86 Red Sox team that lost the heartbreaking World Series to the Mets. Jim Rice has a very strong OPS+. I’m not convinced that he’s more a Hall of Famer than any of the others on this list, but I am sure he will be the one getting the most coverage by the media!
Ryne Sandberg – Philadelphia Phillies, Chicago Cubs
Seasons
G
AB
R
H
2B
3B
HR
RBI
BB
SO
AVG
OBP
SLG
SB
OPS+
16
2164
8385
1318
2386
403
76
282
1061
761
1260
0.285
0.344
0.452
344
114
Another interesting case is Ryne Sandberg. Maybe he’s an example of why sometimes being eligible for the Hall of Fame more than one year is good. At first look, Sandberg’s numbers are great, but not necessarily Hall of Fame caliber on their own. He played in ten straight All Star games (1984-1993) and won nine Gold Gloves at 2B. He was the 1984 NL MVP and three times he finished in the Top 5 in voting. All very good, but Hall of Fame? Now compare his numbers against other 2B, and especially other 2B during his era. That’s where the argument arises that he could be a Hall of Fame 2B!
Lee Smith – Chicago Cubs, Boston Red Sox, St. Louis Cardinals, New York Yankees, Baltimore Orioles, California Angels, Cincinnati Reds, Montreal Expos
Seasons
G
GS
IP
W
L
S
ERA
H
R
ER
BB
SO
ERA+
18
1022
6
1289.3
71
92
478
3.03
1133
475
434
486
1251
132
#1 on the All-Time Saves list with 478. Here are the Top 5 in that category:
1.) Lee Smith 478
2.) John Franco 424
3.) Dennis Eckersley 390
4.) Jeff Reardon 367
5.) Trevor Hoffman 352
Now, I’m right there with many others that say that the Save is one of the most over-rated statistics in baseball history. But, like the DH, the closer has become a big part of the game of baseball. That was Lee Smith’s role for his career and he did it well. Look at his strikeouts/IP at almost 1.0. Look at his ERA+. Lee Smith was one of the first to redefine the closer role as it is today. He led the league in Saves four times and finished in the top 5 of his league eleven time. Smith was also a seven time All-Star.
Bruce Sutter – Chicago Cubs, St. Louis Cardinals, Atlanta Braves
Seasons
G
GS
IP
W
L
S
ERA
H
R
ER
BB
SO
ERA+
12
661
0
1042.3
68
71
300
2.83
879
370
328
309
861
136
Bruce Sutter’s career wasn’t as long as Gossage’s, but it was equally as dominant. 300 saves with a 2.83 career ERA. That 136 ERA+ shows just how strong he was. A six-time All-Star, Sutter was named the 1979 NL Cy Young Award winner. He finished top 5 for the award four other times. He was also a member of the 1982 St. Louis Cardinals World Series championship team.
Alan Trammell - Detroit Tigers
Seasons
G
AB
R
H
2B
3B
HR
RBI
BB
SO
AVG
OBP
SLG
SB
OPS+
20
2293
8288
1231
2365
412
55
185
1003
850
874
0.285
0.352
0.415
236
110
I have to admit, I totally don’t understand why there are so many people that think that Alan Trammell is a Hall of Fame caliber player. Just look at his numbers. They’re good, but they’re far from earth-shattering. And, I’m a huge supporter of the fact that numbers and stats don’t tell the whole story. This must be a case of that! Trammell was a six time All-Star and four-time Gold Glove winner for the Tigers. He was also the MVP of the 1984 World Series. One more thing that really sticks in my mind as a reason he should not be a Hall of Famer is his number of games played each season. Starting with his first full season in 1978, here are the number of games Trammell played in through 1996 (139, 142, 146, 105, 157, 142, 139, 149, 151, 151, 128, 121, 146, 101, 29, 112, 76, 74, 66). If you’re a Hall of Famer, you should be averaging less time off each season. His double-play partner, Lou Whitaker, deserves just as much consideration in my mind.
SUMMARY
Again I can’t stress enough that I think all of these players were incredible! They not only stayed in the league for more than a decade, but their careers are strong enough to remain on this ballot and some of them may still end up in the Hall of Fame. So, here are the results if I were to give a percentage that I think they will receive (Not based on last year or any other percentage):
1.) Bruce Sutter – 75%
2.) Ryne Sandberg – 75%
3.) Andre Dawson – 62%
4.) Jim Rice – 55%
5.) Bert Blyleven – 49%
6.) Lee Smith – 32%
7.) Goose Gossage – 31%
8.) Dale Murphy – 12%
9.) Steve Garvey – 11%
10.) Don Mattingly – 10%
11.) Jack Morris – 10%
12.) Dave Parker – 9%
13.) Alan Trammell – 8%
14.) Tommy John – 5%
15.) Dave Concepcion – 5%
In other words, I think that a couple of these guys will finally get into the Hall. I think that Dawson and Rice will stay high, but not near 75% I also think that Bert Blyleven will continue to gain percentage just because his career numbers are too good to continue to ignore.
I wish I had a vote for this honor. I would really take it seriously. I would do my homework, and obviously far more than just what you see above. Again, as a voter, I would have the ability to vote for up to ten players for the Hall of Fame. Here are my choices with my thoughts on those on the ballot for the first time still to go tomorrow:
1.) Bert Blyleven – Pitcher
2.) Goose Gossage – Relief Pitcher
3.) Ryan Sandberg - 2B
4.) Lee Smith – Relief Pitcher
So, there are four of a possible ten votes. I could add up to six more tomorrow when I review the careers of those on the ballot for the first time (but I won't!!)
What do you think about my “vote”? Am I on track in my analysis and thoughts? Who am I leaving out that you would want to be included? I’d love to hear your arguments on this topic. I know many will write about their votes and tell you who they think should be selected for the Hall of Fame, so I wanted to get my thoughts out first. Please, send me an e-mail and let’s get a discussion going on this Hall of Fame topic. Voters (Baseball Writers of America) have until the end of the month to cast their votes, and the results will be announced in early January. At that time, we will know who the 2005 Hall of Fame Inductees will be.
That is it for today. Again, be sure to check back tomorrow for a look at those on the Hall of Fame Ballot for the first time!
If you have any questions or comments, e-mail me. And, have a wonderful day!