Wednesday, October 4, 2006
 

 

Comparing the Twins Playoff Teams

UPDATE - This article was originally written and posted on Tuesday, March 9, 2004. I have now updated it to include the stats for the Twins playoff players (to include 2004 and 2006 teams) in the charts. I think it is interesting to see how the current Twins rank with the Twins from prior playoff teams. I realize that throughout the article, there will be wrong numbers. But, I do think that this is a fun look at the Twins playoff teams. I will only update the charts and include a brief update under each position. Also, the All-Time Twins playoff team and the overall rankings have been updated. I'd love to hear your thoughts, so please e-mail me, or leave Comments below. 

I was 12 years old when the Twins won their first World Series Championship in 1987. I was 16 when they went from worst to first and beat the Atlanta Braves in the 1991 World Series. I am frequently trying to compare the current two-time defending American League Central Division Champion teams to those ’87 and ’91 teams. So, I figured I would take it another step and compare those four teams to three others. The Twins lost in the World Series to the Dodgers in 1965. The Twins then lost to the Baltimore Orioles in 1969 and 1970.

So, what I’m going to do is a comparison of the seven Twins playoff teams. I don’t have the time to compare the entire rosters, so to be concise, I looked up Box Scores and statistics from each playoff series at Retrosheet. I came up with the primary starting lineups for the teams, in the playoffs. That probably isn’t fair. In 1965, Jimmie Hall was one of the Twins best hitters. However, in the playoffs, Joe Nossek got most of the starts in centerfield. So, my analysis is based on the stats of Nossek, who was not as good a hitter. Also, I will be looking at their regular season stats. I realize that those numbers don’t matter in the least in the playoffs. Guys like Steve Lombardozzi and Dan Gladden can be as likely a playoff hero as Harmon Killebrew or Kirby Puckett.

What I am going to do is look position-by-position at the starters for each team. I will have them ranked from 1-7. The rankings are loosely based on Win Shares. However, I also made some executive decisions if the Win Shares were the same or close. Remember that Win Shares also factor in defensive performance, which explains how Leo Cardenas ranked so well. For the pitchers, the Twins have always thrown just three starters in the playoffs, except in 2002 when they went with four. I'd love to hear lots of feedback on this topic. I'm sure everyone has their opinions on these former Twins teams. I would like to hear/learn more about those early teams. So, if you have any information or comments, please e-mail me.

So, let’s get started and see how it goes. Let’s start behind the plate with the catchers:

THE CATCHERS

 

Player

G

AB

BA

OBP

SLG

2B

HR

RBI

WS

2006 Joe Mauer 140 521 .347 .429 .507 36 13 84 27

2003

AJ Pierzynski

137

487

0.312

0.360

0.464

35

11

74

22

1965

Earl Battey

131

394

0.297

0.375

0.409

22

6

60

22

2002

AJ Pierzynski

130

440

0.300

0.334

0.439

31

6

49

17

1991

Brian Harper

123

441

0.311

0.336

0.447

28

10

69

15

1970

George Mitterwald

117

369

0.222

0.291

0.388

12

15

46

13

1969

Johnny Roseboro

115

361

0.263

0.333

0.321

12

3

32

10

2004 Henry Blanco 114 365 .206 .260 .368 19 10 37 4

1987

Tim Laudner

113

288

0.191

0.252

0.389

7

16

43

4

I remember the nickname for Tim Laudner in 1987 was “Buck-Ninety” because of his average. Pretty appropriate! I think that AJ Pierzynski has been very good the last couple of seasons, despite his lack of walks. Speaking of lack of walks, I always remember Brian Harper being a great hitter (and an absolutely horrendous defensive catcher), but he really didn’t walk much either. After Earl Battey retired in 1967, Johnny Roseboro came over from the Dodgers with Bob Miller and Ron Perranoski in exchange for Mudcat Grant and Zoilo Versalles. He was released right after the 1969 season ended.

UPDATE - Henry Blanco replaced the injured Joe Mauer for most of the second half of the season. He did show some power, but overall, he was horrible, as would be expected. Joe Mauer's 2006 season looks even more impressive in this context, doesn't it?

THE FIRST BASEMEN

 

Player

G

AB

BA

OBP

SLG

2B

HR

RBI

WS

2006 Justin Morneau 157 592 .321 .375 .559 37 34 130 29

1987

Kent Hrbek

143

477

0.285

0.389

0.545

20

34

90

25

2003

Doug Mientkiewicz

142

487

0.300

0.393

0.450

38

11

65

20

1991

Kent Hrbek

132

462

0.284

0.373

0.461

20

20

89

19

1969

Rich Reese

132

419

0.322

0.362

0.513

24

16

69

17

1965

Don Mincher

128

346

0.251

0.344

0.509

17

22

65

17

2002

Doug Mientkiewicz

143

467

0.261

0.365

0.392

29

10

64

17

1970

Rich Reese

153

501

0.261

0.332

0.371

15

10

56

14

2004 Justin Morneau 74 280 .271 .340 .536 17 19 58 10

Yeah, Kent Hrbek was really pretty good. Decent average, pretty good middle-of-the-order power, consistent. Consistent is not the word to describe the 2002 and 2003 seasons of Doug Mientkiewicz, I guess! But I think the same can be said about Rich Reese from 1969 to 1970. Of course, some of Doug’s “Wins” are based on his defense (and all those doubles!). Don Mincher was the Twins primary first baseman in 1965, although as you can see, he didn’t play ever day either, but he did put up very solid homer numbers!

UPDATE - Justin Morneau replaced Doug Mientkiewicz after the All-Star break in 2004, so his numbers look poor, but take it times two for a similar second half, and he moves far up this list. In 2006, he was absolutely remarkable, by far the tops on this list.

THE SECOND BASEMEN

 

Player

G

AB

BA

OBP

SLG

2B

HR

RBI

WS

1969

Rod Carew

123

458

0.332

0.386

0.467

30

8

56

21

1991

Chuck Knoblauch

151

565

0.281

0.351

0.350

24

1

50

20

2006 Luis Castillo 142 584 .296 .358 .370 22 3 49 17

1987

Steve Lombardozzi

136

432

0.238

0.298

0.352

19

8

38

10

2004 Luis Rivas 109 336 .256 .283 .432 19 10 34 9

2003

Luis Rivas

135

475

0.259

0.308

0.381

16

8

43

6

2002

Luis Rivas

93

316

0.256

0.305

0.392

23

4

35

6

1970

Danny Thompson

96

302

0.219

0.234

0.248

9

0

22

3

1965

Frank Quilici

56

149

0.208

0.280

0.255

5

0

7

2

Rod Carew was really good, but must have had a couple of injury-plagued seasons. In 1969, he hit well, but missed almost 40 games. Then in 1970, he played in just 51 games (and, of course, hit .366). He only pinch hit (0-2) in the ’70 playoffs. Of course, that is why the weak-hitting Danny Thompson played so much. Similarly, Jerry Kindall played more games during the regular season at 2B in 1965, but Frank Quilici ended up playing in the playoffs more. Chuck Knoblauch had a pretty solid rookie year, didn’t he?  Those 25 stolen bases were good too, and he was actually a very good defensive player back then, just two years out of Texas A&M. And, Steve Lombardozzi wasn’t completely terrible! OK, he wasn’t good. Thompson and Quilici even made Luis Rivas look good. Again, “Good” isn’t the appropriate word, just a relative term.

UPDATE - Luis Rivas continued to play like Luis Rivas in 2004. Luis Castillo came in this year and despite the fact that he doesn't run things out to 1B, he had a pretty solid overall season.  

THE THIRD BASEMEN

 

Player

G

AB

BA

OBP

SLG

2B

HR

RBI

WS

1969

Harmon Killebrew

162

555

0.276

0.427

0.584

20

49

140

34

1970

Harmon Killebrew

157

527

0.277

0.411

0.546

20

41

113

30

2003

Corey Koskie

131

469

0.292

0.393

0.452

29

14

69

21

1965

Harmon Killebrew

113

401

0.269

0.384

0.501

16

25

75

22

1987

Gary Gaetti

154

584

0.257

0.303

0.485

36

31

109

17

2002

Corey Koskie

140

490

0.267

0.368

0.447

37

15

69

19

2004 Corey Koskie 118 422 .251 .342 .495 24 25 71 14
2006 Nick Punto 135 459 .290 .352 .373 21 1 45 12

1991

Mike Pagliarulo

121

365

0.279

0.322

0.384

20

6

36

9

Apparently that Harmon Killebrew guy was pretty good, huh? Just look at those numbers in 1969 and 1970! His batting average was not real high, but he walked a lot and had a great slugging percentage! And, despite all of his injuries in 2003, Corey Koskie had a very solid year. If only he could stay healthy for a full season! Gary Gaetti had a few really solid seasons and won a couple of Gold Gloves too. Twins fans all remember that Mike Pagliarulo platooned with Scott Leius and each contributed mightily to the 1991 championship, but “Pags” got the majority of the starts in the regular season.

UPDATE - Corey Koskie was solid when healthy, and had a nice 2004 season. Fans like to think that Nick Punto has done a lot in 2006. He has certainly played his part, but this puts what he has done into a little more perspective.  

THE SHORTSTOPS

 

Player

G

AB

BA

OBP

SLG

2B

HR

RBI

WS

1965

Zoilo Versailles

160

666

0.273

0.319

0.462

45

19

77

32

1969

Leo Cardenas

160

578

0.280

0.353

0.388

24

10

70

23

1970

Leo Cardenas

160

588

0.247

0.300

0.374

34

11

65

19

1987

Greg Gagne

137

437

0.265

0.310

0.430

28

10

40

18

2004 Cristian Guzman 145 576 .274 .309 .384 31 8 46 15

2002

Cristian Guzman

148

623

0.273

0.292

0.385

31

9

59

13

2003

Cristian Guzman

143

534

0.268

0.311

0.365

15

3

53

13

2006 Jason Bartlett 99 333 .309 .367 .393 18 2 32 12

1991

Greg Gagne

139

408

0.265

0.310

0.395

23

8

42

12

Zoilo Versalles won the 1965 American League MVP award. He had a really great season. Believe me, if it happened now, SABRmetricians would probably take issue with that decision. He also added 12 triples to the above numbers. As I mentioned above, it was interesting to me to see Leo Cardenas’s Win Shares so high; he must have been a good defensive shortstop! But, he put up solid numbers, especially in 1969. Greg Gagne and Cristian Guzman are very comparable, and not just from the numbers. Both are incredibly gifted, quick, athletic shortstops. Neither is a good base stealer. Neither had a lot of defensive range, but made the plays that they did get to. It is interesting to see how similar their numbers were.

UPDATE - Cristian Guzman was typical Guzman in 2004, his last with the Twins. I would guess that much of his value came from defense. I just calculated the numbers. Had Jason Bartlett played in all 162 games (instead of the 99 straight he played since his call up), he would have had 19.6 Win Shares. That moves him way up this list.

THE LEFTFIELDERS

 

Player

G

AB

BA

OBP

SLG

2B

HR

RBI

WS

2002

Jacque Jones

149

577

0.300

0.341

0.511

37

27

85

25

2003

Shannon Stewart

136

573

0.307

0.364

0.459

44

13

73

19

1965

Bob Allison

135

438

0.233

0.342

0.445

14

23

78

22

2004 Shannon Stewart 92 378 .304 .380 .447 17 11 47 13

1970

Brant Alyea

94

258

0.291

0.366

0.531

12

16

61

12

1969

Ted Uhlaender

152

554

0.273

0.328

0.356

18

8

62

14

1987

Dan Gladden

121

438

0.249

0.312

0.361

21

8

38

9

1991

Dan Gladden

126

461

0.247

0.306

0.356

14

6

52

7

2006 Rondell White 99 337 .246 .276 .365 17 7 38 2

I always remember Dan Gladden as being pretty good! I guess the numbers don’t really verify that, do they? Ted Uhlaender was a solid starter for the 1969 season, but Brant Alyea got most of the playing time late in the 1970 season. Bob Allison had higher Win Shares in 1965 than Shannon Stewart last year. However, I couldn’t discount the discrepancy in batting average. Allison had more home runs, but then look at the doubles and that is why Shannon Stewart is ranked ahead of him. And, everyone wonders why I am so high on Jacque Jones and want him to be able to stay healthy in 2004. Just look at his numbers in 2002! The doubles, the homers, the defense. He can be so good!

UPDATE - Lew Ford actually played most of the left field for the Twins in 2004, but Shannon Stewart returned for the playoffs to play it horribly. Decent offensive numbers, though. Left field was a mess for the Twins and several people played there, but Rondell White has done well of late. 

THE CENTERFIELDERS

 

Player

G

AB

BA

OBP

SLG

2B

HR

RBI

WS

1987

Kirby Puckett

157

624

0.332

0.367

0.534

32

28

99

29

1970

Cesar Tovar

161

650

0.300

0.356

0.442

36

10

54

28

2002

Torii Hunter

148

561

0.289

0.334

0.524

37

29

94

21

1991

Kirby Puckett

152

611

0.319

0.352

0.460

29

15

89

21

1969

Cesar Tovar

158

535

0.288

0.342

0.415

25

11

52

19

2006 Torii Hunter 147 557 .278 .336 .490 21 31 98 17

2003

Torii Hunter

154

581

0.250

0.312

0.451

31

26

102

16

2004 Torii Hunter 138 520 .271 .330 .475 37 23 81 15

1965

Joe Nossek

87

170

0.218

0.250

0.306

9

2

16

2

Kirby Puckett was always my favorite player. Looking at his numbers though, it puts into perspective how much bigger the offensive numbers are now than just 12-15 years ago. Torii Hunter was also really good in 2002 and took a big step backward in 2003, but his defense keeps his Win Shares up fairly high. It’s fun to actually look at the Cesar Tovar numbers and see how good he really was. Usually, when I think of Tovar or have been told things about him, it is because of the game that he played in all nine positions. It is interesting to see that he was a very strong performer on some very strong Twins teams! And again, Jimmie Hall had a great offensive 1965, a season that would rank third on this list, but Joe Nossek got the call in the playoffs.

UPDATE - Torii Hunter actually had two hot stretches during the 2006 season, and we still see where his numbers rank. He was not good in 2004.

THE RIGHTFIELDERS

 

Player

G

AB

BA

OBP

SLG

2B

HR

RBI

WS

1965

Tony Oliva

149

576

0.321

0.378

0.491

40

16

98

33

1970

Tony Oliva

157

628

0.325

0.364

0.514

36

23

107

30

2006 Michael Cuddyer 150 557 .284 .362 .504 41 24 109 25

1969

Tony Oliva

153

637

0.309

0.355

0.496

39

24

101

25

1991

Shane Mack

143

442

0.310

0.363

0.529

27

18

74

20

1987

Tom Brunansky

155

532

0.259

0.352

0.489

22

32

85

20

2004 Jacque Jones 151 555 .254 .315 .427 22 24 80 14

2003

Jacque Jones

136

517

0.304

0.333

0.464

33

16

69

14

2002

Dustan Mohr

120

383

0.269

0.325

0.433

23

12

45

11

Tony Oliva should be in the Hall of Fame. No, not just from these seasons, but for his whole career. Another guy who wouldn’t take a walk, Oliva could flat-out hit and had a rocket for an arm. Of course, he retired before I was born. Shane Mack was a flop until he came to Minnesota and became a very important piece of the 1991 Twins team. Tom Brunansky for Tom Herr will forever go down as the worst Twins trade. Bruno struck out a lot and didn’t hit for average, but he was a decent outfielder and a good power source. Jacque Jones actually didn’t play a lot of right field last year until the playoffs because he was the left fielder until Shannon Stewart arrived. So, his numbers are a result of his injuries. Dusty Kielmohr (Dustan Mohr/Bobby Kielty) was the Twins rightfielder in 2002. Michael Cuddyer came up late in the season and earned the starting job in the playoffs, but defensive struggles pushed Mohr back into the lineup. He produced decent numbers.

UPDATE - Michael Cuddyer had a terrific season, and finding his way in between a couple of Tony Oliva seasons illustrates that. Jacque Jones batting average dropped drastically in 2004, although his power did go back up.

THE DESIGNATED HITTERS

 

Player

G

AB

BA

OBP

SLG

2B

HR

RBI

WS

1965

Jimmie Hall

148

522

0.285

0.347

0.464

25

20

86

26

1991

Chili Davis

153

534

0.277

0.385

0.507

34

29

93

22

2004 Lew Ford 154 569 .299 .381 .446 31 15 72 22

2003

Matthew Lecroy

107

345

0.287

0.342

0.490

19

17

64

12

2002

David Ortiz

125

412

0.272

0.339

0.500

32

20

75

11

1987

Randy Bush

122

293

0.253

0.349

0.413

10

11

46

9

2006 Jason Tyner 62 218 .312 .345 .353 5 0 18 6

1970

Jim Holt

142

319

0.266

0.300

0.342

9

3

40

7

1969

Graig Nettles

96

225

0.222

0.319

0.373

9

7

26

5

Because the DH wasn’t even around until 1974, the first three Twins playoff teams had no DH. I went with their top pinch hitter in the playoffs instead. Jimmie Hall had a really solid 1965 season. Joe Nossek must have been a great defensive outfielder to keep him off the bench that World Series. After struggling with the Angels in 1990, Chili Davis came to the Twins and revitalized his career with one of his best seasons ever! Matthew Lecroy quietly had 17 home runs last year. His playing time was inconsistent, and he is really bad wherever he tries to play defensively, but he can hit. David Ortiz could always hit, he just couldn’t stay healthy. Randy Bush was named to the Twins 40th Anniversary Team as a pinch hitter. In 1987, he was the team’s primary DH too. He always put up good numbers. For 1969 and 1970, I just chose the best hitter that wasn’t a starter, and neither really was great. Jim Holt was normally an outfielder/1B. Graig Nettles was a 24 year old rookie looking for at bats, and now he is helping Alex Rodriguez learn to play third base.

UPDATE - Lew Ford played in the field most of the season, but DHd in the playoffs. Just look at what an incredible season he really had! Like LF, the DH role was not a consistent position all year. I think that Jason Tyner and Phil Nevin will share duties in the playoffs.

THE STARTING PITCHERS

 

 

Pitcher

W

L

S

ERA

IP

WHIP

SO

K/9

WS

2004 SP1 Johan Santana 20 6 0 2.61 228.0 0.92 265 10.5 27
2006 SP1 Johan Santana 19 6 0 2.77 233.2 1.00 245 9.4 24

1987

SP1

Frank Viola

17

10

0

2.90

251.7

1.18

197

7.0

24

1970

SP1

Jim Perry

24

12

0

3.04

278.7

1.13

168

5.4

21

1969

SP1

Jim Perry

20

6

0

2.82

261.7

1.18

153

5.3

20

1991

SP2

Kevin Tapani

16

9

0

2.99

244.0

1.09

135

5.0

21

2004 SP2 Brad Radke 11 8 0 3.48 219.7 1.16 143 5.9 19

1991

SP1

Jack Morris

18

12

0

3.43

246.7

1.29

163

5.9

18

1987

SP2

Bert Blyleven

15

12

0

4.01

267.0

1.31

196

6.6

18

1991

SP3

Scott Erickson

20

8

0

3.18

204.0

1.27

108

4.8

18

1965

SP2

Jim Kaat

18

11

0

2.83

264.3

1.25

154

5.2

17

1965

SP1

Mudcat Grant

21

7

0

3.30

270.3

1.16

142

4.7

17

2006 SP3 Francisco Liriano 12 3 1 2.16 121.0 1.00 144 10.7 16

2003

SP2

Johan Santana

12

3

0

3.07

158.3

1.10

169

9.6

16

1969

SP2

Dave Boswell

20

12

0

3.23

256.3

1.22

190

6.7

16

1970

SP3

Tom Hall

11

6

4

2.55

151.3

1.04

184

10.9

14

2002

SP2

Rick Reed

15

7

0

3.78

188.0

1.16

121

5.8

14

2004 SP3 Carlos Silva 14 8 0 4.21 203.0 1.43 76 3.4 14

1970

SP2

Jim Kaat

14

10

0

3.56

230.3

1.31

120

4.7

12

2003

SP1

Brad Radke

14

10

0

4.49

212.3

1.27

120

5.1

12

2003

SP3

Kyle Lohse

14

11

0

4.61

201.0

1.27

130

5.8

11

1965

SP3

Camilo Pascual

9

3

0

3.35

156.0

1.21

96

5.5

9

2002

SP3

Eric Milton

13

9

0

4.84

171.0

1.19

121

6.4

9

1987

SP3

Les Straker

8

10

0

4.37

154.3

1.35

76

4.4

9

2006 SP2 Brad Radke 12 9 0 4.32 162.3 1.41 83 4.6 8

1969

SP3

Bob Miller

5

5

0

3.02

119.3

1.26

57

4.3

8

2002

SP1

Brad Radke

9

5

0

4.72

118.3

1.22

62

4.7

6

2006 SP4 Boof Bonser 7 6 0 4.22 100.3 1.28 84 9.3 6
2004 SP4 Kyle Lohse 9 13 0 5.34 194 1.63 111 5.2 6

2002

SP4

Joe Mays

4

8

0

5.38

95.3

1.45

38

3.6

2

Frank Viola was incredible in 1987 and was actually better, winning the AL Cy Young Award in 1988. Then, he was traded to the New York Mets for four players, including 1991 starter Kevin Tapani and closer Rick Aguilera. The Twins pitching really has been solid, but definitely unspectacular the last two seasons. The 1991 starting rotation was even better than I remember. We remember the Scott Erickson no-hitter and 12 game winning streak. Look at some of the names on this list and you’re talking about some really great pitchers (Jim Perry, Jim Kaat, Mudcat Grant, Jack Morris, Bert Blyleven, Camilo Pascual), and then there are some guys on this list that were easy to forget. But Les Straker made a big Game 6 start in the 1987 World Series.

I initially found it interesting that along with the great Jim Perry and Jim Kaat, it was Tom Hall who was the third starter. Then I noticed his strikeout rate. Hall only got 11 starts on the season (52 appearances), but was used instead of Luis Tiant or a 19 year old Bert Blyleven. Compare him to the 2003 version of Johan Santana. I think if Aaron Gleeman was, well, alive, and writing his blog in 1970, Tom Hall would likely have been the Official Pitcher of Aaron’s Baseball Blog. Hall was just 6-0, 155 pounds, so I’m sure that’s why the coaches didn’t let him start too often! He had a 10 year career with three other teams and despite high strikeout numbers, never was a starter.

UPDATE - Need any more proof that Johan Santana is pretty special?! Brad Radke's 2004 season was pretty good too. I included the 2006 season of Francisco Liriano, just to show where they would be. The rest of the numbers from these two seasons just are not too good.

THE CLOSERS

 

Pitcher

W

L

S

ERA

IP

H

BB

WHIP

SO

K/9

WS

2006 Joe Nathan 7 0 36 1.58 68.3 38 16 0.73 95 12.5 21

1969

Ron Perranoski

9

10

31

2.11

119.7

85

52

1.14

62

4.7

20

2004 Joe Nathan 1 2 44 1.62 72.3 48 23 0.98 89 11.1 16

1970

Ron Perranoski

7

8

34

2.43

111.0

108

42

1.35

55

4.5

15

1991

Rick Aguilera

4

5

42

2.35

69.0

44

30

1.07

61

8.0

15

2003

Eddie Guardado

3

5

41

2.89

65.3

50

14

0.98

60

8.3

15

2002

Eddie Guardado

1

3

45

2.93

67.7

53

18

1.05

70

9.3

14

1965

Al Worthington

10

7

21

2.13

80.3

57

41

1.22

59

6.6

12

1987

Jeff Reardon

8

8

31

4.48

80.3

70

28

1.22

83

9.3

12

I am definitely of the opinion that what Ron Perranoski did in 1969 and 1970 was far more impressive than what any of the one-inning closers did. That is nothing against the others, but Perranoski pitched a lot of innings! Eddie Guardado was anything but steady, but just take a final look at his numbers the last two years. They are absolutely incredible, especially his WHIP of 0.98 last year! Rick Aguilera was never a closer before coming to the Twins and did pretty well. It must have been the beard, but I always thought that Jeff Reardon was better than his ERA shows. However, he didn’t walk many and struck out a bunch, so whatever works, right?

UPDATE - Joe Nathan was great in 2004, but he was about as good as it gets in 2006!

THE MANAGERS

1965 - Sam Mele

1969 - Billy Martin

1970 - Bill Rigney

1987 - Tom Kelly (Link to managerial numbers)

1991 - Tom Kelly (Link to playing days)

2002 - Ron Gardenhire (Link to managerial numbers)

2003 - Ron Gardenhire (Link to playing days)

2004 - Ron Gardenhire (Link to managerial numbers)

2006 - Ron Gardenhire (Link to playing days)

 

I have no way of really evaluating or ranking these guys. Billy Martin is a known commodity whose temperament meant he lasted just one season. Ron Gardenhire has won two division titles. But, #1 has to be Tom Kelly. First, he won the only two World Championships in team history. Second, he deserves a lot of the credit for the 2002 and 2003 teams.

UPDATE - Of course, Ron Gardenhire has now won four division titles, in five years.

SUMMARY

First, lets take a look at the All-Twins Playoff Teams Team (does that make sense?):

 

 

Player

G

AB

BA

OBP

SLG

2B

HR

RBI

WS

C

2006

Joe Mauer

140 521 .347 .429 .507 36 13 84

27

1B

2006

Justin Morneau

157 592 .321 .375 .559 37 34 130

29

2B

1969

Rod Carew

123

458

0.332

0.386

0.467

30

8

56

21

3B

1969

Harmon Killebrew

162

555

0.276

0.427

0.584

20

49

140

34

SS

    1965

Zoilo Versailles

160

666

0.273

0.319

0.462

45

19

77

32

LF

2002

Jacque Jones

149

577

0.300

0.341

0.511

37

27

85

25

CF

1987

Kirby Puckett

157

624

0.332

0.367

0.534

32

28

99

29

RF

1965

Tony Oliva

149

576

0.321

0.378

0.491

40

16

98

33

DH

1965

Jimmie Hall

148

522

0.285

0.347

0.464

25

20

86

26

How’s that for a lineup? They could definitely compete with the 2004, 2006 and 1927 New York Yankees. Bear with me a second while I try to come up with a possible lineup. What do you think?

1.       Rod Carew 2B

2.       Joe Mauer C

3.       Kirby Puckett CF

4.       Tony Oliva RF

5.       Harmon Killebrew 3B

6.       Justin Morneau 1B

7.      Jimmie Hall DH

8.        Zoilo Versailles SS

9.       Jacque Jones LF

As per current Twins problems, this team would be very left-hand dominant, but with these guys (aside from Jones) would that even matter? I’d start with Johan Santana (pick a year), Frank Viola and Jim Perry. I’d pitch Jim Kaat in Game 4, and if we ever got to a Game 7, I’d give the ball to Jack Morris!

Looking at the players, which team is best? I know this doesn’t matter. Really, the 1987 and 1991 teams have to be considered the best just because those teams did win the World Series. But, let’s put them all up against each other and see what happens. Using my rankings, I will give the #1 player 10 points, the #2 person will get 6 points, the #3 player will get 5 points, and so on. Pitching wins, so I developed my own ranking of the starting pitchers, then used a secret formula to give the best team 30 points, followed by a corresponding related number for each other team. Here is how that looks:

 

1965

1969

1970

1987

1991

2002

2003

2004 2006

C

7

3

4

1

5

6

8

2 10

1B

4

5

2

8

6

3

7

1 10

2B

1

10

2

6

8

3

4

5 7

3B

6

10

8

5

1

4

7

3 2

SS

10

8

7

6

1

4

3

5 2

LF

7

4

5

3

2

10

8

6 1

CF

1

5

8

10

6

7

3

2 4

RF

10

6

8

4

5

1

2

3 7

DH

10

1

2

4

8

5

6

7 3

SP

22

23

24

27

30

10

19

29 21

CL

2

8

6

1

5

3

4

7 10

Total

80

83

76

75

77

56

71

70 77

So, from this, here is the overall ranking of the Twins playoff teams:

1.)   1969 (97-65)

2.)   1965 (102-60)

3.)   1991 (95-67)

4.)   2006 (96-66)

5.)   1970 (98-64)

6.)   1987 (85-77)

7.)    2003 (90-72)

8.)  2004 (92-70)

9.)  2002 (94-67)

So there you have it. A different look at some great Twins teams. It is a very unscientific method of ranking the teams, but it is certainly fun to research.

I hope you have enjoyed this. If you have any questions or comments, please e-mail me. If you have a favorite Twins team or a favorite Twins player, send me an e-mail and I’d be really happy to exchange thoughts.

 

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