Friday, February 11, 2011

Liriano Thoughts

 

There wasn’t a posting on Thursday morning because, I am thrilled to announce, I received the pre-ordered Minnesota Twins Prospect Handbooks on Wednesday, and spent that whole night getting them ready to be mailed out right away on Thursday… It was a bit of a late one, but it is complete. If you ordered a copy (or two) of the Minnesota Twins Prospect Handbook via pre-order, you got a great deal, and your books are on their way now. Hopefully you will start seeing them very soon! If you pre-ordered and don’t get your copy by next Wednesday, please let me know. Thank you again to all that ordered.

 

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FRANCISCO LIRIANO

 

With that, let’s talk a little bit about Joe Christensen’s article about the idea of trading Francisco Liriano. I’ve been asked several times today for my thoughts. Here are a few:

 

·         Joe Christensen is as credible as it gets. If he was willing to put the story into the paper, it’s based on something, probably discussions with people in the know.

·         So, the questions become Who? and Why?

o    Could it be coming from Liriano’s agent? Remember two years ago when Liriano was pitching at Rochester and his agent complained publically that Liriano was being held back in Triple-A so that he wouldn’t be arbitration-eligible? Could the agent be upset at the Twins still and trying to start something in an attempt to get his agent a lot of dollars, or a trade to a place he wants to go?

o    Could it have been leaked by the Twins front office? Maybe in an attempt to gauge a couple of things. First, they can gauge fan reaction to potentially trading an ace-like pitcher when most have been saying that the team needs to add an ace (it would not be pretty at all for a team that claims to want to win now). Second, it could show up on MLB Trade Rumors and on Twitter and teams could then contact the Twins to see what it would take to get the Twins lefty.

·         I’ve said all along that I would be comfortable with the Twins signing Liriano for up to four years and up to $40 million. Again, that was based on comparables Zach Greinke and Josh Johnson’s contracts signed at the same point in their careers. However…

·         As I have said numerous times, I am 100% against signing starting pitchers to huge contracts beyond the age of 31, maybe 32. It was interesting to read what Andy McPhail, former Twins GM and current Orioles GM, said yesterday about signing #1 starters. “We're not going to be buying No. 1 pitchers. Because by the time they reach free agency, they're expensive and they're fragile. It's just a bad place for us to spend our money.

·         That said, I have also said that there are plenty of reasons to just go one year now. Yes, his Tommy John surgery was in November of 2006, but that was far from his first arm injury. As much as I say that, at the end of the day, I’ll put Liriano’s stats against anyone, I don’t disagree with those who say that he tends to get a little over-excited in big games and big moments. If Liriano is really asking for the three years and $39 million mentioned in the article, the Twins would be better off just having an ace at $4.5 million this year and see what happens.

·         If that 3 years and $39 million number was an extension beyond the $4.5 million he will make in 2011, then the four year total would be 4 years and $43.5 million. As John Bonnes has said on twitter, that’s about where the agent should start negotiations as it is only $3.5 million over what I thought was fair.

o    He blogged about it today and tried to make me look smart.

o    Knuckleballs Blog also discusses The Frankie Affair.

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·         It isn’t worth getting upset about the story for many reasons.

o    First, I don’t really think that the Twins will trade Francisco Liriano before the season starts.

o    Second, maybe Liriano and his agent have demanded a trade. We don’t know the whole story.

o    Third, We don’t know what the trade market would be for someone like Liriano.

·         What type of package could the Twins get for Liriano? I mean, what if the Rays offered Jeremy Hellickson and Desmond Jennings? What if the Angels offered a package around Mike Trout?

·         Michael Young for Francisco Liriano, even if the Rangers throw in a lot of cash, is not a good trade… Add in Derek Holland, and we can sit down at a table together and start talking.

 

I know it’s a day later, but I do have an excuse, right? Let me know what you think about these Liriano rumors, or any other Twins topics. If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to discuss in the comments section.

 

 

·         Seth's Minnesota Twins Prospect Handbook 2011 is now available online here. For just $14.95, you get 170 page of Twins minor league content.

 

·         100 Things Twins Fans Should Know & Do Before They Die is a new book which will be available March 1. Twins writer Alex Halsted is the author, and I’m told I may have a cameo.

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