Wednesday,
February 2, 2011
Twins Fest Weekend: Part 2
Smith Says Year-to-Year on Liriano
I will be
breaking up my Twins Fest Weekend into several blog postings. In Part
1, I wrote about Friday night at the Ballpark Tours Hot Stove Banquet.
The next few blogs will be various topics from the two days I spent at Twins
Fest.
On Saturday, the
gates opened at 9:00 a.m., and I got there about 9:45 or so. Even at that time,
I had to park in the Overflow parking lot. It was cold, so fortunately there
was a shuttle bus going frequently to the Blaine National Sports Center, so it
wasn’t too bad. I walked in, and as I was walking down the hallway, someone
came walking toward me saying, “There he is, it’s Seth Stohs.” I looked, and it was Fanatic Jack. He
was standing where he was, on his phone, on the Dez Tobin Saturday morning Twins podcast. I didn’t bother him too
much, although I did tweet that I was listening.
I walked around
and saw Mike Radcliff (Twins
Director of Player Personnel) over by the Down on the Farm area, so I went up
and talked with him for a few minutes. It seems that I see him just once a
year, at Twins Fest, and try to get five minutes with him. He’s very nice and
happy to answer questions. He commented that the spring competitions would be
for the extra infielder and obviously in the bullpen.
After a few
minutes, I went to a concession area that didn’t have a long line. I noticed
that 1500espn’s Darren “Doogie” Wolfson grabbing
something to eat. I went up to him and asked where his security was. It was
nice catching up with Doogie again, and he was on his
way to the 1500espn area where he was on air with KSTP’s Joe Schmit from 12-2.
By this point, I
had also run into Andrew Bryz-Gornia, who worked Twins Fest on Friday night and
Saturday and then went as a fan on Sunday. Also, the North Dakota Twins Fan was
there with Mrs. North Dakota Twins Fan, and it was good to hang out with the
two of them at various times throughout the day.
I met Fanatic
Jack and we were just chatting in the middle of a walk way when Bill Smith walked by. Fanatic Jack went up to Mr. Smith,
which of course made me a little nervous, but he mentioned he was a season
ticket holder and we all shook hands. Jack was really complementary, and
frankly, I was in awe at Jack being so nice. Suddenly, he started asking
questions:
Justin Morneau
I know I said I
wouldn’t discuss the Justin Morneau situation anymore until spring training, but I
will briefly here because Jack asked Bill
Smith a question about it. And, as he had said the night before at the
Diamond Awards, they have “April 1st circled on their calendar.” That’s
when they want him ready. March 1st would be great, but they want
him ready by Opening Day. At that point, I was happy with that answer…
Unfortunately,
he continued by saying that they don’t want him to go back and forth from
playing to the Disabled List and back. If they means
they wait until May 1st or June 1st or even July 1st,
they will wait. He talked about how he is now a father, and they want him to be
able to live a long and healthy life with his family.
So, now I’m back
at WHO KNOWS? And I’m back to not talking about it because I do know that I don’t
know. I’m no doctor, so I guess we will have to see.
Francisco Liriano
Next, Jack asked
if the team had any plans to discuss a multi-year contract with Francisco Liriano.
Again, I expected Mr. Smith to say something like, “Well, we will think about
that and if something happens, we’ll let you know.”
Nope!
Bill Smith instantly said, “No, we are going to go year-to-year
with Liriano, at least for one more year. We
definitely recognize the risk in doing that and if he has another big year, it
will cost us some money.”
What is the
financial risk? Well, if you read the Offseason GM Handbook or my Locking
Up Liriano blog from
last fall, I compared what Liriano could get this
offseason to what Zach Greinke and Josh
Johnson got at the same point in their careers. Like Liriano,
both were risks at the time of the signing and although they had experienced
success were not quite at the level they are today. They were both in their
second year of arbitration, as is Liriano. Zach Greinke
got four years and $38 million. Josh
Johnson got four years and $39 million. I think that it would cost the
Twins four years and $40 million to lock up Liriano
for 2011 through 2014 if they did it this spring. If Liriano
were to have another very good year, I could see him getting a five year, $72
million type of contract after 2011. That extends the risk a couple of years,
but it keeps him around a little longer, and a big chunk of that $72 million is
paid in the final two years. However, the amount paid from 2011 through 2014
would only be $3-5 million more than signing him now. (see
guestimated chart below) Obviously with Liriano there are injury risks that can’t just be ignored
(however, that is also true of any pitcher).
|
|
Yr-2-Yr |
4/40
now |
Long-Term
Next Yr |
|
2011 |
$
4.5M |
$ 4M |
$
4.5M |
|
2012 |
$ 9M |
$ 8M |
$ 9M |
|
2013 |
F/A |
$ 14M |
$ 15M |
|
2014 |
F/A |
$ 14M |
$ 16M |
|
2015 |
F/A |
F/A |
$ 18M |
|
2016 |
F/A |
F/A |
$ 19M |
So, I would be
in favor of locking up Liriano now for four years,
but I certainly can also understand that a lot of the risk in signing Liriano this year is on the Twins part. The five year, $72
million deal in a year is my guess if Liriano has
another great year. Obviously we all believe he can and hope he does, but we
don’t know.
But back to the
Twins Fest/Bill Smith discussion, I was quite surprised that he was as upfront
about not negotiating long-term with Liriano.
MORE MOVES COMING?
One of Jack’s
other questions was whether or not the team would consider adding another player,
bullpen or other, before spring training. Smith said, “We currently are at 59
players that we have invited to training camp, and ironically, we have 59
lockers in Ft. Myers.” That created a chuckle. Obviously it doesn’t mean that
they couldn’t add another player.
He did stress
that they have brought in a lot of pitchers to compete for some spots. He named
James Hoey,
and he mentioned Dusty Hughes. He
mentioned Jeff Manship and Scott Diamond. He was talking about another pitcher they had added,
and I said, “Eric Hacker?” He said, “Yes.”
I completely
agree with this philosophy of building the bullpen with internal options which
would include one of the six starting pitchers. They have plenty of arms. It
might take training camp and a month or so to figure out what the best
combination is, and what roles some in the back end of
the bullpen will fill, but there are plenty of good arms.
It was pretty
cool conversing, and watching Fanatic Jack converse with, Bill Smith. I wasn’t
sure how it would go, but in the end, Jack could not get over what an affable
man Smith was.
If you have any
thoughts on this posting, please feel free to e-mail me or leave
comments below.